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イギリス人「和食は過大評価。量少ないしあまりおいしくない」→日本人激怒

 

2023年4月25日08:00:00

 

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1 名前：風吹けば名無し 投稿日：2023/04/22 3:12:04 ID:ML5Jneol0.net

日本に20年以上住んだ英国人の本音 「日本料理は過大評価されている」 日本在住の外国人大学講師が英誌に寄稿 魅力の大半は「味」とは無関係 日本に23年間暮らし、屋台料理から懐石のフグの天ぷらまで、ありとあらゆる日本料理を食べてきた結果、私はある結論に達した──日本料理は過大評価されている、ということだ。日本料理は盛り付けが完璧でないことがめったになく、絶品なこともある。だが同時に味気なく、似たり寄ったりなこともある。 問題の一つは、日本人が自国の料理に惹かれる理由の多くが、実際の「味」とは関係のないところにある点だ。 少なくとも英国料理がまずかった昔、それはたんなる「燃料」にすぎなかったのに対して、日本料理は昔もいまも、ある意味「芸術」だ。高級な日本料理は、ワーグナーの総合芸術に匹敵する。色彩、選りすぐりの器、箸、膳、座敷、そしてもしあれば近くの小川から流れる水の音、これらはあらゆるものを包括する知覚的経験の一部をなす。 https://courrier.jp/news/archives/323138/

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2 名前：風吹けば名無し 投稿日：2023/04/22 3:14:02 ID:fNHgJjJS0.net

そりゃイギリス人にめしが不味いって言われたらキレるよな

3 名前：風吹けば名無し 投稿日：2023/04/22 3:15:02 ID:nzjWOLqBd.net

これは確信を持って言うがイギリス人に日本の飯が理解できる訳がない

5 名前：風吹けば名無し 投稿日：2023/04/22 3:16:03 ID:s1iQ8jrO0.net

お前が言うな

7 名前：風吹けば名無し 投稿日：2023/04/22 3:17:01 ID:zKhnqs+Z0.net

イギリス人にだけはどの国も言われたくはないだろ

8 名前：風吹けば名無し 投稿日：2023/04/22 3:17:01 ID:bQwScmRRa.net

まあでも料亭の料理とかってめっちゃ美味いの2割美味いの3割何食ってるかわからんの5割みたいなとこある

9 名前：風吹けば名無し 投稿日：2023/04/22 3:18:02 ID:HCFpnbnV0.net

ウナギのゼリー寄せばっか食ってるイギリス人に味がわかるのか？

10 名前：風吹けば名無し 投稿日：2023/04/22 3:18:03 ID:as8RQYqXa.net

ぶっちゃけちょっとわかる

11 名前：風吹けば名無し 投稿日：2023/04/22 3:18:03 ID:JqIdIqPcp.net

まあ基本醤油だからな

12 名前：風吹けば名無し 投稿日：2023/04/22 3:18:03 ID:M5ByDS6j0.net

イギリス人はカツカレーばっか食っとるからな

14 名前：風吹けば名無し 投稿日：2023/04/22 3:19:04 ID:s1iQ8jrO0.net

>>12 なんでチキンカツやねん

13 名前：風吹けば名無し 投稿日：2023/04/22 3:19:04 ID:xWYYmB590.net

子供の頃から良いもの食わないと味覚は育たんからな 日本では子供舌って表現されるで

15 名前：風吹けば名無し 投稿日：2023/04/22 3:20:02 ID:HCFpnbnV0.net

おせちは不味い これだけは確か

16 名前：風吹けば名無し 投稿日：2023/04/22 3:21:02 ID:kpTTYQea0.net

そういう批判がわざわざ出るってことは褒めてる奴もぎょーさんおるっちゅーことや

17 名前：風吹けば名無し 投稿日：2023/04/22 3:21:02 ID:t9oIDzg80.net

ブリカスにはあの美味さがわからん

18 名前：風吹けば名無し 投稿日：2023/04/22 3:23:04 ID:5ky2Qb6E0.net

ガチな和食はあんまり美味くない

20 名前：風吹けば名無し 投稿日：2023/04/22 3:24:02 ID:ox1bbzhmM.net

>>18 うなぎでさえファストフードが値上がりしただけだもんな

19 名前：風吹けば名無し 投稿日：2023/04/22 3:24:02 ID:6eBnph/h0.net

日本の料理は美味いけど日本料理は別に美味くない

23 名前：風吹けば名無し 投稿日：2023/04/22 3:27:02 ID:QlHKdWDGa.net

>>19 これ

21 名前：風吹けば名無し 投稿日：2023/04/22 3:25:04 ID:syDoN4tN0.net

懐石みたいなものだけならしゃあないと思うけど 洋食みたいなものまで含んだ話ならこいつがポンコツなだけだと思う

22 名前：風吹けば名無し 投稿日：2023/04/22 3:26:00 ID:/Psh/QEk0.net

魚だけでも季節ごとに色々違うのに「魚料理」って一括りにされたら厳しいな 野菜だってそうだし

24 名前：風吹けば名無し 投稿日：2023/04/22 3:27:05 ID:JqIdIqPcp.net

海外から入って魔改造されて日本の料理になったもんは美味いけど ガチの懐石とかは別に大して美味くはないわな

25 名前：風吹けば名無し 投稿日：2023/04/22 3:28:00 ID:QlHKdWDGa.net

日本にはカレーライスがあるから…

26 名前：風吹けば名無し 投稿日：2023/04/22 3:28:03 ID:2pHT2b8g0.net

ガチな和食は美味いイメージあんまり無いわ ブリカスには言われたくないやろけど

28 名前：風吹けば名無し 投稿日：2023/04/22 3:33:01 ID:h8TPtNQX0.net

ブリカスはウナギゼリーでも食ってろ

29 名前：風吹けば名無し 投稿日：2023/04/22 3:35:03 ID:YKbeV+Bw0.net

ブリカスに言われたくない

30 名前：風吹けば名無し 投稿日：2023/04/22 3:35:05 ID:5Dgcle6x0.net

フグの値段は過大評価

31 名前：風吹けば名無し 投稿日：2023/04/22 3:36:05 ID:Lm3IrzXD0.net

初来日したイギリス人Vチューバーがイギリスの家族にビデオチャットで 「イギリスの飯はクソだ」って開口一番言った話好き

32 名前：風吹けば名無し 投稿日：2023/04/22 3:36:05 ID:HCFpnbnV0.net

寿司とか天ぷらとか丼とか日本的ジャンクフードはうまい

33 名前：風吹けば名無し 投稿日：2023/04/22 3:39:04 ID:cbbiCYir0.net

懐石料理とか出されても嬉しくはない

34 名前：風吹けば名無し 投稿日：2023/04/22 3:40:03 ID:yZGQBtNh0.net

懐石料理って元々僧侶の飯やし

35 名前：風吹けば名無し 投稿日：2023/04/22 3:42:04 ID:rF6BHOCh0.net

案の定誰もスレタイの元の文章読んでない‥ これ褒めてんだぞ 味はそこまで凄い訳じゃないが魅力があるって言ってる ワイら日本人だって懐石みたいな本格的な和食なんざ味は好かんやろ

38 名前：風吹けば名無し 投稿日：2023/04/22 3:47:00 ID:g5g/PfU80.net

>>35 登録しなきゃ読めないやんけ

42 名前：風吹けば名無し 投稿日：2023/04/22 3:55:00 ID:/Psh/QEk0.net

>>35 歳を取ると洋食より和食ってのを痛感して来る まぁまだ若い内には分からんよ

37 名前：風吹けば名無し 投稿日：2023/04/22 3:46:04 ID:6gYPCtnq0.net

記事後半の有料パートには「日本料理の伝統だと思われてる部分って多くが戦後に作られたものでしょ」と一番痛い指摘が書かれている模様

40 名前：風吹けば名無し 投稿日：2023/04/22 3:50:05 ID:VE3JOgdFa.net

懐石料理はまずいしな

41 名前：風吹けば名無し 投稿日：2023/04/22 3:51:01 ID:p/kXNkb40.net

これはしゃーなし イギリス料理うまい料理に舌が慣れてるから日本の料理が口に合わないのも当然

43 名前：風吹けば名無し 投稿日：2023/04/22 3:58:05 ID:g5g/PfU80.net

>>41 日本で23年暮らしたらしいけど

44 名前：風吹けば名無し 投稿日：2023/04/22 4:04:01 ID:vJlQNYmz0.net

鎖国時代から食ってるのって味噌汁納豆漬物ぐらいやろ

27 名前：風吹けば名無し 投稿日：2023/04/22 3:30:03 ID:MDyCPziCr.net

二郎系ラーメン食べたら鼻血出して倒れるやろな 湖池屋　超特盛スコーン　やみつきバーベキュー　210g×12袋

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  名前：

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  投稿日：

  2023年4月25日 08:19:04

  どんだけ荒らそうが無駄だよ
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• no

  3

  名前：

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  投稿日：

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• no

  4

  名前：

  (*‘ω‘*)

  投稿日：

  2023年4月25日 08:55:26

  量は調節せぇや

• no

  5

  名前：

  (*‘ω‘*)

  投稿日：

  2023年4月25日 09:34:06

  ローストビーフとフィッシュ＆チップスは美味しいね。
  量は多いとクレーム来る文化もあるんだよと。
  ハレの日はともかく、ケの日は八分目しか食べないよ。白人様と違って成人病になりやすいんだよ。

• no

  6

  名前：

  (*‘ω‘*)

  投稿日：

  2023年4月25日 09:44:58

  ＞＞1　
  ＞＞3
  おもんな。まぁ荒らしだから面白かったら逆に駄目なんだろうけど。

• no

  7

  名前：

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  投稿日：

  2023年4月25日 09:51:03

  「味以外の部分も料理の一部」というのは
  小学校の家庭科で習うことなので

• no

  8

  名前：

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  投稿日：

  2023年4月25日 09:54:07

  顔文字ガイジは誰にも相手にされないキチガイだからw

• no

  9

  名前：

  (*‘ω‘*)

  投稿日：

  2023年4月25日 09:56:00

  ほんと日本人の反応って韓国人そっくりだな

• no

  10

  名前：

  (*‘ω‘*)

  投稿日：

  2023年4月25日 09:56:33

  英国人「えっ、今日は全員カツカレー食っていいのか!!」

• no

  11

  名前：

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  投稿日：

  2023年4月25日 09:59:07

  まあ英国人には言わせとけ。永遠にわからんだろう

• no

  12

  名前：

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  投稿日：

  2023年4月25日 10:14:05

  >>9
  植松と漁師どっちが怖いの？

• no

  13

  名前：

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  投稿日：

  2023年4月25日 10:14:53

  暇空発狂おじさん書き込んでて草

• no

  14

  名前：

  (*‘ω‘*)

  投稿日：

  2023年4月25日 10:23:47

  ほら、目隠しして食べさせたら何だかわからないゲームあるじゃん
  あれの通り人間の食事は味覚より視覚に依存しているんだよ

• no

  15

  名前：

  (*‘ω‘*)

  投稿日：

  2023年4月25日 10:28:17

  日本料理は目で食べるって辺りを分かってるから良いんじゃねーの。それと外国での日本料理の上げ具合を考えたら妥当な意見だぞ。

• no

  16

  名前：

  (*‘ω‘*)

  投稿日：

  2023年4月25日 10:32:24

  結局は個人の好みによるところで、人それぞれにその料理の味に感動する体験があったかどうかだと思う

  その点、20年以上も日本に住んでいて和食の味に感動する機会に恵まれなかった記者はちょっと気の毒ではある

• no

  17

  名前：

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  投稿日：

  2023年4月25日 10:44:25

  1000円以下の定食は実際量は少ないわな
  大戸屋・やよい軒などの定食をイメージしたらいい
  量が食べたければデカ盛りの店に行けばいいし
  品数も量もほしいなら、元町梅林（横浜・2019年に営業停止）のコース料理を食べればいい
  春鶯亭ひら、梅林（吉田町）もよろしく

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  べつに日本食の評価が下がっても構わない。
  国がバカだから日本食は美味いって海外に広報してるせいで今まで日本に輸入出来てた食材が軒並み値上がり（他国も食うようになったから）してる間抜けな状態が改善されるのは好ましい。

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  2023年4月25日 10:54:15

  仮に繊細な出汁と風味と香りが分かるなら、彼に足りないのは値段だ。

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  2023年4月25日 10:58:54

  似たり寄ったりは分かる
  決まりきった出汁、料理の仕方が似通ってるからアウトプットも似たような傾向になる
  あっさりした薄めの味付けは印象に残りにくいだろうしな

  実際に現代日本人が普段食べているのが
  中華（これだけで幅広すぎ）、カレー、パスタ、ラーメン、ピザ・ハンバーガーなど和食以外が多い
  日本人はとにかく、中華・カレー・パスタが好き

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  日本人あるある
  中華 麻婆豆腐にうるさい。炒飯にうるさい。餃子にうるさい
  カレー 家でも作るし、外でも食べるし、給食では大人気。（260円前後以上の）レトルトカレー異様にうまいし、ご当地カレーなどレトルトの品数も多すぎ。カレー大国と言える
  パスタ AOPにうるさい。学生・貧乏人の強い味方

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  2023年4月25日 11:29:16

  西洋人の味覚なんてなにも信用出来ないでしょ。笑😃ワンパターンのものばっか食って偏食を平気でするゴミ。笑😃
  CNN、ニューヨーク・タイムズが褒めようが、この講師が貶そうがどうでもいい。もう西洋に憧れるのを止めましょう。笑😃

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  2023年4月25日 11:35:50

  和食にありがち→全部醤油味。全部味噌味

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  2023年4月25日 12:12:06

  怒らないよ別に、理解できると思ってない
  クリーミーなとんこつラーメンが大好きな人たちに

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  2023年4月25日 12:12:22

  だってよ……！！シャンクス……舌が！！！

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  2023年4月25日 12:34:42

  何十年住もうが、フグの天ぷらをゲテモノみたいに特別視してる時点で、日本食は分からないだろう。笑😃(たとえ、フグを持ち出したのが、自身の日本での幅広い食経験を西洋人向けに訴える方便だとしても、フグを受け入れ食べ慣れていればそんな発想にはならない。)笑😃
  コイツの中ではフグはまだゲテモノで、ギャーギャー言いながら恐る恐る口にして、その淡泊さに拍子抜けして、以後食ってないんでしょ。「フグを食ったぞ」と誇ってるようなレベルの低い奴なんだから。笑😃

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  2023年4月25日 12:40:42

  まぁ、分かるわ
  海外からみた和食ってなんか意識高い系の食い物にされてるイメージある
  評価されてるのは「味」じゃなく「ステータス」だな
  ゆーてイタリアンぐらいの質素な評価が妥当

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  2023年4月25日 13:42:00

  まずヘルシー、次にヘルシー、最後に塩分控えめかつヘルシー
  こう評されて持て囃されてるのが一汁三菜のwashokuだもんな

  そもそも炊いた白米を味付け無しで食えって時点で拷問だと感じる文化圏の人も多いし
  わびさびすさびの芸術なんてもんに路傍の石ほどの価値も感じない人も多い

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  2023年4月25日 13:43:45

  笑😃

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  西洋人の味覚は全員おかしい！笑😃和食を論ずる資格のあるものなどおらん。笑😃
  和食の価値は日本人にしか分からんよ。笑😃素人のゴミがなにを知った気になっているのだか。浅ましい。笑😃まあ、文化の表層のところで、褒めたり貶したりウダウダやっているがよい。笑😃

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  2023年4月25日 14:13:51

  不味いって認識させといたらええやん
  ウナギや魚を外人が食うようになったら日本人の食うものがなくなる
  日本食なんか広めなくていい

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  2023年4月25日 14:37:14

  鰻は伝統的にイギリスでも食われてただろ！
  つ「鰻のゼリー寄せ」

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  2023年4月25日 15:03:45

  20年以上の在住を経て、それなりに食事の経験も積んでるっぽいからエアプより全然マシだと思うわ

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  2023年4月25日 15:14:06

  和食ってゲームの縛りプレイみたいなもんだからな
  厳しい制限の仲でこれだけやれるのは凄い！っていう曲芸みたいなもんで
  そういうの無しで広く模索を続けてる連中には勝てる要素が無い

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  2023年4月25日 16:10:18

  見た目も味も壊滅的な料理しかない国の人間がなんだって？面白いエゲレスジョークだな

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  2023年4月25日 16:40:44

  まあイギリス野郎には出汁の風味は理解できんだろうな

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  2023年4月25日 18:33:38

  イタリア人シェフがアルデンテを理解できるのはイタリア以外では日本人だけって言ってたな。エゲレス人には難しいだろうて。

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  2023年4月25日 20:23:13

  ＣＷニコル氏などによると、欧州白人の一部には、炊いた白飯に不快感を覚える人が少なくないらしい。
  　
  体質的に日本食が合わない人ならしょうがない。

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  2023年4月25日 21:15:31

  日本人が和食を食べて美味しいと思ってるならそれでいいんじゃないの？

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  2023年4月25日 21:49:40

  そうですね。英国料理も言われてるほど酷くはないですよね？

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  2023年4月25日 22:06:53

  量については、少なくとも日本人からしたらお前らが食い過ぎなんだよとしか…。
  味は、普通に系統が違い過ぎるから合わない人が多くても不思議ではない。
  日本人だって、イギリス料理クソマズ！って人てんこ盛りだし。

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  2023年4月25日 22:54:04

  こなすれのたいはゆがいぎりすじんをめしまずだのばかじただのいうけんりなさそうなやつばっかりだな

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  2023年4月25日 23:04:44

  「イギリス料理が不味い」は、欧州の他の国々からも思われてるんだよなぁ
  北欧の友達もイギリスメシマズをネタにしててワロタ

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  2023年4月26日 01:46:27

  >>42を修正・翻訳しました
  このスレの大半がイギリス人を飯マズだの馬鹿舌だの言う権利のなさそうな奴ばっかりだな

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  2023年4月26日 02:07:25

  >>30
  相変わらず下手クソな日本語だなあ
  「西洋人の味覚」が主語なのに「全員」で受けれるわけないだろ
  「西洋人は味覚が全員おかしい」に訂正しろ

  ま、お前みたいなアホはどうせ重箱の隅つつくな～とか言うんだろうが

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  2023年4月26日 02:58:04

  ※45
  重箱の隅をつつな～。笑😃
  はい論破！笑😃

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  2023年4月26日 04:27:32

  イギリス人はそもそも料理しねえからな。
  そのかわり外食が安くてうまい。ほとんどが中華とイタリアンだ。
  移民とか華僑の外食用に用意されたような味の濃い飯はそりゃうまかろうよ。
  日本食はそういうよその国のやつに食わせて外貨を得るために作ってない。
  イタリアの米は日本の米に近いしこの両者では通じるものがあると思うけどね

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  2023年4月26日 04:44:12

  幼少期にまともな物食べてないと味覚は磨かれないからね、成人してから磨こうとしてももう遅い。イギリスで育った自分を恨め。

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  2023年4月26日 07:19:54

  まあワイも洋食のほうが好きやし

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  2023年4月26日 07:24:44

  まあ見た目はいいけど旨いんだか不味いんだかよくわからないような料理もあるしな…

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  2023年4月26日 10:36:57

  >>46
  「重箱の隅をつつな～」ってお前もう言語障害だろ
  西洋人の味覚どうこうより自分の日本語を何とかしろ

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  2023年4月26日 11:42:30

  チャイニーズがイギリスに進出したのここ最近でなく
  19世紀にはもうたくさんいたからな
  ロンドンのチャイナタウンは欧州一のチャイナタウンじゃねえの？知らんけど

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  2023年4月26日 12:32:29

  そんな考え方してるからイギリス料理は世界中からまずいって酷評されるんだよ。
  ２０年も日本にいて何も学べてないのな。

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  2023年4月26日 12:54:37

  こんなに毎食毎食違うものばっかり食べてて、外食以外で自国の料理以外の
  バラエティに富んだ料理を食べられる国って日本だけって聞いたけど本当・・・なんだろうな

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  2023年4月26日 13:02:07

  今の日本は食事と売春とポルノとの低次欲求に特化し過ぎでない？
  それで外貨稼ぐって腹くくったならもう何も言うことないけど

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  2023年4月26日 13:20:50

  日本料理というか日本の魔改造料理がうまいんだよなー
  今もカレーうどん食ってるわ

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  2023年4月26日 15:19:45

  実際、高級な和食って大して美味しくないもんな
  彩りとか見た目とかのためにたいしておいしくない食材入れがち

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  2023年4月26日 16:26:06

  ブリカスに料理を貶されて怒る日本人はそうおらんやろ？

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  2023年4月26日 17:44:03

  そうだね　プロテインだね

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  2023年4月26日 18:55:48

  それはそうかもしれないけど、お前らにだけは言われたくない。

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  2023年4月26日 21:31:39

  日本料理は見た目が綺麗だってことをことさらに書いているが、別に綺麗にしてるんじゃなくて、不快にならないようにしてるんだが、イギリスの料理見てるとまあうん、そうだな、そういうのすら気にしないんだよな
  悲しいわ
  イギリスで料理を楽しめるのは上流階級だけなんですっていうのを体現するような文章を寄稿するのは止めた方がいい
  ちゃんと料理を楽しめるイギリス人も馬鹿にされてしまう

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  2023年4月27日 10:26:05

  別にいいんじゃない？
  他者と必要食料が競合しても、いいことないよ。

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  2023年6月17日 17:55:53

  ほとんどの料理が醤油味か味噌味かの選択肢しかないからしゃーないね
  ただブリカスには言われたくねーな

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  2023年11月14日 15:07:00

  貴重なウナギをゼリーにしちゃう国民なのに

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  2024年2月24日 19:02:00

  イギリス人に否定されるのは誉め言葉と同義だろ
  むしろイギリス人に褒められたら心配